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Post by PerpetuallyAdroit Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:35 pm

Could you perhaps do an analysis of a Knight of Doom when you have the time, please.
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Post by linguisticallyInspired Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:49 pm

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Heir of Blood

Heir - One who invites manipulation through and of [Aspect], Passive Manipulation Class
Blood - Ties, Unity, Bonds

An Heir of Blood is a person who tends to go along with the flow of things, in this case, they probably go along with the flow of friendship. They would be the sort of person who won't tie you down, but will have somewhat of an influence on you to remain friendly and have an everlasting bond with each other. Heirs also are somewhat protected by their aspect so as for this case, they probably won't have much trouble keeping friendly with other people and having an eternally strong bond with people.
Blood could also mean actual blood and in this case, perhaps the H.o.B tends to be protected by the Blood of others, especially trolls'. They could be a lower blood and somewhat change their personality and blood colour into a highblood, not literally of course, but somewhat utilise the blood colours of other trolls', especially if they're using it to passively influence their team mates into becoming higher up on the spectrum.
Blood also relates to the Spirit as Karkat once stated in the latest update that he thought Blood is related to warrior spirit and such. In this case, the Heir could influence Warrior Spirit through others making them more motivated to fight (ghosting the Breath antithesis). Like John, who inspired Freedom through Roxy, the Heir would inspire Unity through others, making an awfully well-working team together. They would be going around helping others with their friendships and close bonds, making them a really good leader. 'Cause in the first place, Blood players tend to kinda be the leaders of their group most of the time.
All together, the Heir of Blood would be a great player to have around. Being so nice to people while keeping their united and all of that! There's no doubt that this player would make a wonderful player, especially if they have another one to help with that.

Inverse: Heir of Blood --> Mage of Breath
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Post by linguisticallyInspired Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:05 pm

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Knight of Doom

Knight - One who Protects with [Aspect] or Protects [Aspect], Passive/Active Usage/Protection Class
Doom - Destiny, Sacrifice, Death

The Knight of Doom as usual, would play a part in protecting the Space player, or the Space player protecting the Knight, whichever works best. In this case, the Knight would be able to protect the Fates of others, preventing them from having a sad fate and keeping them sane, also even protecting others from their own death. Their part will be crucial in protecting the Space player since they would be in charge of making sure the Space player doesn't have any deaths that could occur to them.
Knights also tend to feel like they are never good enough, in this case, the Knight would probably start out feeling like their Destinies are nothing compared to others, always feeling a little lame every time the subject of Destinies and Fates are brought up. They could be rather pessimistic people, always feeling like they can't play a good part in helping people and protecting them.
Since Doom is also related to Sacrifices, the Knight would be bound to make some sort of Sacrifice in place of others' Sacrifices. For example, they could stop someone from making a dangerous decision and take their place, protecting others' Sacrifices from happening and replacing it with their own. This could possibly lead to their own death, or probably making them partly scarred or something (Mituna burning out his psionic powers).
Knights are usually good people with great intentions, they just need the right people to help them to feel more at ease with themselves. Sure, they might feel like others are waaaayyy better than them, but that's not true, they just need a little more confidence even though they hide it behind a confident or cool mask, (Dave as a Cool Kid, Karkat pretending to be all that, Latula looking like she's cool). Like a Knight usually does, they hide their emotions behind a mask.
In conclusion, the K.o.D has a potential to be KO'd (pun intended) in the process of protecting someone close to them. Sure they'll have their confusions and such but they are a handy player to be around. Protecting others from their own Deaths after all, who wouldn't want such a considerate soul as that!

Inverse: Knight of Doom --> Rogue of Life
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Post by Havik Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:47 pm

How about a Thief of Space?
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Post by trichotomousKeeper Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:31 pm

It would be cool to see your take on a Knight of Heart
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Post by linguisticallyInspired Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:21 am

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Thief of Space

Thief - One who steals through [Aspect] or steals [Aspect]
Space - Frogs, Size, Creation, Fashion

As all Thieves go, they're bound to be really selfish or narcissistic in a way and the Thief of Space is no exception. The T.o.S, might be someone who thinks their fashion sense is the best and will probably resort to stealing others' clothes. They might have a criminal record for shoplifting from clothes stores, though that might be a little unlikely, but could still happen anyways. Maybe they're someone who wants to create something but ends up stealing others' creations or ideas and claiming it as theirs, which may make them a not exactly liked character in their group of friends.

During the thief's session, as a Space player, it is definitely their job to be in charge of breeding the    Frog. While in the process of breeding it, they might try the short cut way to steal the frog from a successful session if their session is a doomed one, this is especially probable if they have already reached god tier. As an active class, they might have trouble relying on others to let their plans flow and might be one of the reigns or the leaders during the session, wanting to take charge, like we've seen in our two canon thieves in Homestuck.

The T.o.S' challenge would be to learn how to distribute their aspect among their team mates successfully and in this case, perhaps the Thief might share some tips about outfits, creation of life and so on. Their GT powers may include stealing an object's size for themselves, possibly making them smaller or bigger in size or velocity which could serve as a powerup during a battle like the Black King. Overall, though the T.o.S may not start out well-liked because of their thieving nature, if they come out successfully they may become a great asset to their team.

Inverse: Thief of Space --> Page of Time


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Post by linguisticallyInspired Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:37 am

Knight of Heart

Knight - One who protects [Aspect], One who protects with [Aspect], Passive/Active Usage/Protection Class
Heart - Intuition, Relationships, Soul

The Knight of Heart is a very noble class to have indeed. The K.o.H would have the role of protecting their team mates' state of soul and ensuring that their emotions are in check. They would be like the caretaker of the group pretty much. A very useful partner to have in the process of the Space player's frog breeding.  

The Knight unfortunately themselves, may always be having a hard time ignoring the fact that everyone seems to be a lot more motivated than they are, maybe they themselves don't know how motivated and excited they seem to appear in front of others. They may also be someone who's struggling to be true to their own Emotions.

The Knight's challenge would be to become a little more confident in their own abilities and successfully use their emotions and intuition to protect their team mates' state of Heart. Quite a wonderful player to have in times of distress where they would be able to calm the atmosphere so that the group would have space to think. After achieving god tier, the possibility of the Knight really literally being able to use emotions to protect others would be highly useful. Overall, a Knight of Heart would be the sort of person who would be great to have around if their team mates are very easily agitated.

Inverse: Knight of Heart --> Rogue of Mind


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Post by hereticalTophat Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:59 am

Could you give an explanation for a Page of Space?
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Post by linguisticallyInspired Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:03 am

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Page of Space

Page - One who invites creation through [Aspect], One who invites creation of [Aspect], Passive Creation class
Space - Frogs, Size, Creation, Fashion

The Page of Space, like all pages would start out small at first, not seeming like they have a lot of potential in the beginning, but when the opportunity rises, they would then become one of the strongest in their group. The Page is usually a person who may seem somewhat gullible, weak somewhat, but with enough encouragement they become a great person and a leader like what we saw ghost Tavros do. In this case, P.o.S might achieve leadership or the creation of the frog through their friends, and may even be able to get them to help them create the frog somehow, perhaps like how Tavros achieved it through Friendship, in this case, maybe it's the Page's fantastical ideas of creation that make others interested in helping out the P.o.S with their troubles.

That precisely, would be the Page's challenge, finding out their good points in order to achieve their leadership and be extremely helpful to their team. The P.o.S would be able to use others' help in order to create an object that could give life, like an egg, a plant, etc. etc. Either ways, this is a very balanced class that shouldn't prove too much trouble to a team, unless their team members see them as a nuisance or anything, so hopefully no one tries to reject the Page's potential.

Inverse: Page of Space --> Thief of Time

I apologise for the short explanation, the Page class is a bit of a difficult class to explain due to them not really displaying themselves or being exactly explained in the comic.
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Post by hereticalTophat Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:38 am

That was the main reason why I asked! Also, thank you a bunch for that explanation. It helps. ^.^
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Post by linguisticallyInspired Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:33 am

I see, well, I'm glad my speculation helped out! ^ ^
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Post by trichotomousKeeper Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:02 pm

What about a seer of hope?
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Post by linguisticallyInspired Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:52 pm

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Seer of Hope

Seer - One who invites knowledge of [Aspect], One who invites knowledge through [Aspect], Passive Understanding Class
Hope - Beliefs, Working Beyond Limits, Possibilities

A Seer of Hope is basically someone who would act in the role of guiding their team towards the most diverse possible path. They could probably end up guiding their team mates along individual paths depending on the knowledge they gained and know of every team mate. They could guide their team accordingly to their beliefs, for example, if the team is a very imaginative group, the path they are guided through would be the most imaginative or if not, probably the most scientific. The S.o.H will be able to predict the most imaginative or scientific thing that could possibly happen throughout the session, also depending on their beliefs as well.

The S.o.H, character-wise, they could be someone who has a huge asset of knowledge on something, like how Terezi was with Justice (Mind) and Rose with Truth(Light). In this case, the S.o.H might have a very good understanding on fantasy creatures or scientific theories, or maybe both. Like all Seers, the S.o.H would be a background worker, using their friends to support them and at the same time support the friends as well. It's not to say the Seer cannot take action by themselves, it's just that they need their friends to assist along with them, since we know that Rose, our canon Seer had gone grimdark upon attempting to take revenge on Bec Noir.

I can't say that there's nothing too special about the S.o.H's powers as with the understanding class except for a slighlly clairvoyant nature, since they do have the power to predict the outcome of actions. The S.o.H will have a major supportive role of ensuring that their team continues through with a wide open minded view on their session, as Hope does represent Various Possibilities.

Inverse: Seer of Hope --> Witch of Rage


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Post by PerpetuallyAdroit Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:19 am

Hey, could I get your interpretation of a Seer of Doom when you have the time?

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Post by linguisticallyInspired Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:09 pm

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Seer of Doom

Seer - One who invites knowledge of [Aspect], One who invites knowledge through [Aspect], Passive Understanding Class
Doom - Destiny, Sacrifice, Death

A Seer of Doom would have the role of guiding the team through the sacrificial path and their team might have to give up a lot of things throughout their session. But that should as long as the S.o.D knows what they're doing, it may allow the their team to grow through those Sacrifices. The S.o.D would also have a wide knowledge on destinies and deaths, this could mean that they might be somewhat interested in fortune telling or tarot cards, anything that may have a link to foreseeing destinies of others or themselves.

As the S.o.D also goes down the road of sacrifices, they may even come to the point where they know they're probably going to die, or perhaps their team is. Doom players always have a knack of knowing that either they or their team would face death somehow, passive classes seem to be able to sense others' deaths more than active classes however. Since the S.o.D would be a person who knows about death a lot more than other people,  they may even be able to convince their team about it and may be more ready to accept it than others.

Overall, a Seer of Doom would be a very interesting class, one who knows about the possible deaths that would be coming, they may be able to warn others of their demise before the stationed death comes along. If they choose not to warn their teammates, though unlikely since the Seer has a role of guiding their team mates and being the support to them, the S.o.D might feel like they may mess up the alpha timeline in a way, they could also be people who learn to accept deaths the way it goes. It could go both ways anyway.

Inverse: Seer of Doom --> Witch of Life


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Post by proffesionalHunter Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:17 pm

Ming doing the Knight of Space :P
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Post by linguisticallyInspired Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:18 pm

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Knight of Space

Knight - One who Protects with [Aspect] or Protects [Aspect], Passive/Active Usage/Protection Class
Space - Frogs, Size, Creation, Fashion

The Knight of Space would probably have the most responsibilities as a Space player, having the role of breeding the Genesis Frog and at the same time, protecting it from any possible harm. Other than breeding the Genesis Frog, they would be able to protect the creations of their team mates and their's, maybe using size and velocity to their advantage to protect say, a friend's wardrobe crisis or something their friend had created.

The K.o.S would be a very supporting character who may even take it upon themselves to ensure the safety of their friends' pet, machinery, etc. The Knight, like most Space players will have a connection to frogs, perhaps the K.o.S has an affinity for frogs and the like. As most Knights go, the K.o.S may have an inferiority complex to their own stuff, what they create, artwork, etc, they may feel belittled. They would have to learn to see their good points and realise that they should stop trying to be someone else.

Overall, a Knight of Space would be a really considerate person to be around, though they may constantly act like someone else, perhaps trying to be someone who feels like they can give advice that is always right, they would still be tolerable somewhat. Upon ascending GT, the Knight of Space would be a very handy person to have around and will definitely be trusted with the process of creating the Genesis Frog.

Inverse: Knight of Space --> Rogue of Time
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Post by timesrowKilling Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:24 pm

Hey LI could you do the bard of light?
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Post by timesrowKilling Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:12 pm

thanks :D
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Post by Havik Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:02 pm

How about heir of time?
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Post by linguisticallyInspired Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:39 pm

@.Havik

I've already done a speculation on that. Just click the link above, second post, Time GT Title Speculations
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Post by hereticalTophat Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:27 am

Can you do a Witch of Rage please?
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